Thursday, 6 December 2007

Taken to task by former Tories

Ouch! A stinging mailbox this morning with half a dozen ex-Tory BNPers taking umbrage at my remarks yesterday on those who have switched their allegiance from the Conservative Party to the British National Party.

I will, of course, reply personally to everyone upset by my stated preference for Old Labour recruits to the BNP rather than those who have come from the Tories. I must stress that this is my personal view and it was only published in my personal weblog. It is not the viewpoint of the British National Party or that of the Freedom newspaper.

"I find it bizarre that you should you regard my conversion to the BNP of less value than that of someone from the Labour Party," one aggrieved ex-Conservative scolded me.

I shall reply to him that I'm only talking about Old Labour. There are no recruits from New Labour because the Blair and Brown agenda is so far from the ideals of nationalism that there could never ever be a meeting of minds.

Back in the General Election of 1979 I met a huge number of Tories and they were all certain that Margaret Thatcher would end immigration and put the 'Great' back into Great Britain. After that election, thousands of British Nationalists deserted our cause to join the Conservatives - all duped by Thatcher's phoney nationalism.

In 1983 I met a great many more Tories but this time our meetings were far from friendly. I was campaigning in support of Britain's miners while they seemed happy to see their Party systematically closing down an energy source that was vital for our country's self-sufficiency.
"If we don't support our miners now, in 20 years time we will be relying on coal imported from Eastern Europe to keep our homes warm and our industry running," I told them. But they didn't listen - they were more worried about 'Reds under the bed' and on getting one over on Arthur Scargill.

Then there was North Sea Oil, our Fishing waters around the UK, the Railways, our airlines, Water, Gas, Electricity and the Post Office. One by one essential services and resources, vital to secure a country's independence, were hawked off at a cut price to the highest bidder. The very foundations that were so vital to any Nationalist economy, dug-up and destroyed for ever by consecutive Tory Governments.

I just find it difficult to understand how anyone claiming to be a nationalist could ever have been a member, supporter or official of a political party that did so much in such a short space of time to destroy our national interest.

Anyway, that is my last observation on this matter. I most certainly don't want to rock the boat when things are going so well. The BNP can accommodate quite a broad church of political views as long as the fundamentals of nationalism remain at its core.

And it's not only former Tories that I have upset this week. I have been reprimanded by some of our Sandwell BNP activists who are working hard in the Prince's End by-election where polling takes place today. They take me to task over Monday's blog which they say was much too downbeat on our chances of retaining the seat. "There's great support on the doorstep with voters seeking out our canvassers to pledge their votes for Karen", one told me while another believes that a 'famous victory' is on the cards.

Fingers-crossed then, and I shall try and stay up for the result which hopefully the excellent BNP Information Line - 0906 553 2245 - will report on around midnight.

Pretty grumpy blog again I'm afraid - put it down to this never-ending flu bug and Workington Reds poor recent form.


alanorei said...

Here in the northeast, Germany's Deutsche Bank part-owns Northumbrian Water.

Imagine, all that water in Kieldor Reservoir part-owned by the Germans.

Hermann Goering would be rubbing his pudgy hands if he could.

If this is part of the Tory legacy - and your post indicates that it is and indeed only part thereof - the ex-Tories in the Party could surely only be critical if they openly and vehemently disavowed their former political allegiance when they jumped ship.

Cllr Chris said...

Hi Martin

I don't come from the either side of politics, new or old. But your view and mine on the Thatcher years seem pretty near the same. I could bang on about how she (with media connivance) conned us out of billions with her "Thatcher Rebate" trickery. But that's just ancient history now.

I know they (Tories) won't like it but my experience with Tory voters is that overwhelmingly they maintain an air of insufferable superiority. Most often not even prepared to debate. They were Tory. That was that!

Labour voters on the other hand were much more prepared to give me an ear-bashing and - remarkably - also listened in return.

If some ex-Tory voters feel upset by this observation perhaps they might consider just how hard it was for them to come to terms with the error of their past voting habits. And indeed they need congratulating that they were prepared to question their old allegiance. Labour voters just seemed to be able to come across so much more easily. Don't know why - just seemed that way to me.

For me - Labour, Tory - two identical sides of the same coin. Any argument to say one might be slightly better than the other is futile semantics.

Martin Wingfield said...

Comment received from Dean.

Dear Mr Wingfield,
I'm sure you've received plenty of mail recently after your comments on ex-Conservatives. I would like to offer some views myself, and I hope they are of some constructive value. I grew up in London, and like many, have viewed 'Old Labour' as something that died out in the fifties. When Blair won in 1997, I assumed that the whole country had gone mad, and that the nation was quite happy voting for a large increase in mass immigration and political correctness. I'm glad to say I was wrong, and that many, many Labour voters were faithful to the principals that their party had long ago abandoned.
What were my views of Thatcher and privatisation? I was in favour, and applauded Thatcher's taking on of the 'red' miners. Now, twenty years later, I'm ashamed to admit that. Many voters simply are not sophisticated enough to seperate the good from the bad in the policy platforms, and tend to take or leave the whole thing. It was a long journey for me to see the folly of modern globalised free-trade capitalism, and I was amazed, after coming to those views, to see that your party had been championing them for years. Back then, it seemed like the left were all about immigration, and the 'right' were all about doing what they could to stop it and prop up the traditional way of life under the relentless advance of socialism. That was a false facade, and once again I see that now. But I would ask that you not be so harsh on us. Yes, it's your personal view, but in your position most other people will not appreciate that, and I don't think it's legitimate for you to use your blog
o express such a view, since your blog has the traffic it does as a direct result of your position in the party. If it were your personal view only, it would not leave the pub. I don't think alienating other members needlessly is good strategy, and I would have thought that you would be able to hold back your own views for the greater good of your party - and your country. Many people were attracted to the Conservative party because, when Labour was becoming whacko politically correct (long before Blair), the Tories held out a hope - a false one as it happened - of slowing down or stopping the rot, and maintaining a traditional Britain. As for economics, well, when my leftist ultra feminist 'anti-racist' A-Level teachers attacked the Conservatives for privatisation, I had the knee-jerk reaction. It was a simpler world back then - the left, aligned with the repressive and statist Soviet Union, and the 'right', aligned with the freedom-loving and capitalist USA. At least that w
s how it was presented. I hadn't heard of neo-conservatism back then. That, and British Rail and British Telecom were incompetent rip-off merchants. But the smoke-screens have been lifted, and we all see that we were betrayed. Are we going to waste precious time and energy arguing over who was more stupid? Lastly, many Conservatives are traditionalists, and were not in favour of Thatcherism. The Monday Club members appear to be in that mould. Many others, like my working-class cockney family, saw everything in terms of immigration, and voted for the least evil - how did they know Thatcher would betray us all? Me? I accepted the Tory position, hook, line and sinker. I thought I was opposing the reds; instead I was playing into the hands of those who wish to destroy us, whether left or right. But am I worse than the old Labourite, naively following a party who used the language of the downtrodden to blatantly destroy our country and every traditional institution which it gave b
rth to, while still thinking that's its about protectionism and fair wages for the working classes? And like it or not, ex-Conservatives are more likely to be better educated and to have a stronger commitment to principle, which is why they will make good allies when and if they wake up (I'm working class: I'm not blowing my own trumpet, because I never grew up in a middle-class Conservative environment). There again, the old Labourites are more likely to have a simple yet honest view of the world, with plenty more common sense. We need each other. We have been fooled, divided, and conquered. I don't think we need BNP leaders to resurrect those divisions under the guise of offering their 'personal opinions'. Just my opinion, and I respect any leader who has the guts to stand for a party like the BNP, including yourself.